The downstream outage is over. Elasticsearch is green, output errors have stopped, and Logstash is delivering events again. But the persistent queue is shrinking far slower than it filled, disk I/O is pinned, and df shows the same used space it did an hour ago even though queue_size_in_bytes has clearly dropped.
Most of the time, nothing is stuck. A persistent queue (PQ) draining after recovery looks unhealthy from almost every angle: high disk I/O, reduced effective throughput, and disk usage that refuses to go down. This is expected behavior driven by how PQ pages are released. The failure modes you actually need to rule out are narrower: page or checkpoint corruption, poison events pinning pages, and disk I/O saturation becoming the new bottleneck.
What this means
The PQ stores events in append-only page files on disk. During a downstream outage, inputs keep writing pages while outputs acknowledge nothing. When the downstream recovers, workers resume pulling batches, outputs start acknowledging, and the queue begins to drain. Three properties of the design make this drain look worse than it is:
- Drain is I/O-bound, fill was not. Filling the queue was sequential writes. Draining it is random reads of page files plus the normal write path for newly arriving events, on top of the output’s own network latency. On slow storage, and especially on network-attached storage, drain takes far longer than fill.
- Pages are released only when fully drained and checkpointed. A page file counts against
queue_size_in_bytesuntil every event in it has been acknowledged by the output and the checkpoint records that fact. One unacknowledged event in a page keeps the whole page on disk. - Logical queue size and physical disk usage diverge.
queue_size_in_bytesdrops as pages become releasable, but the filesystem does not show free space returning until page files are actually deleted. So the API says the queue is shrinking whiledfsays nothing changed.
The practical consequence: judge drain progress by queue_size_in_bytes and flow.queue_persisted_growth_bytes (negative means draining), not by df. Judge disk health separately, because the filesystem can still fill while the queue is logically shrinking if pages are not being released.
flowchart TD
A[Downstream recovered, PQ draining] --> B{queue_size_in_bytes decreasing?}
B -- No --> C[Check output errors and worker state]
B -- Yes --> D{flow.queue_persisted_growth_bytes negative?}
D -- No --> C
D -- Yes --> E{Drain rate reasonable for storage?}
E -- Yes --> F[Normal recovery drag - monitor]
E -- No, I/O saturated --> G[Disk I/O is now the bottleneck]
B -- Stall after restart --> H[Check checkpoint/page corruption - pqcheck]
C --> I{Output errors or retries rising?}
I -- Yes --> J[Downstream not actually healthy]
I -- No --> HCommon causes
| Cause | What it looks like | First thing to check |
|---|---|---|
| Normal page-release lag | queue_size_in_bytes dropping, df flat, high read I/O, drain slower than fill | flow.queue_persisted_growth_bytes negative and steady |
| Disk I/O saturation is the new bottleneck | Drain rate far below what the output could absorb, %util near 100 on the PQ device, low CPU | iostat -xz 1 5 on the PQ volume |
| Slow or network storage under the PQ | Drain takes many times longer than fill; latency on every page read | Whether path.data sits on NFS (not supported) or other slow storage |
| Checkpoint or page corruption after unclean shutdown | Logstash restarts but queue does not drain, or drain stalls partway; PQ-related errors in the log | PQ errors in logstash-plain.log; run pqcheck on the queue directory |
| One poison event pinning a page | Queue drains then stops at a specific size; one page never released because one event in it keeps failing | Output errors and DLQ growth correlated with the stall point |
| Downstream not actually healthy | Output throughput below input, retries or 429s still appearing | Per-output plugin stats and downstream cluster health |
Quick checks
All read-only. Run them in this order.
# 1. Queue state: is it actually draining?
curl -sS http://127.0.0.1:9600/_node/stats/pipelines?pretty
# Look at: queue.events_count, queue.queue_size_in_bytes,
# queue.max_queue_size_in_bytes, queue.data.free_space_in_bytes,
# flow.queue_persisted_growth_bytes (negative = draining),
# flow.input_throughput vs flow.output_throughput
# 2. Logical queue vs physical disk
# Note: du can be slow on a very large queue directory.
du -sh /var/lib/logstash/queue/main/
df -h /var/lib/logstash
# du larger than queue_size_in_bytes and df not moving = page-release lag, expected
# 3. Is disk I/O the bottleneck?
iostat -xz 1 5
# Watch %util and r_await on the device holding the PQ
# 4. Is the output actually healthy now?
grep -Ei '(retry|error|exception|failed|reject|unavailable|timeout|429|503)' /var/log/logstash/logstash-plain.log | tail -n 200
# 5. What are workers doing?
curl -sS 'http://127.0.0.1:9600/_node/hot_threads?pretty'
# Output-wait stacks = downstream still limiting; PQ read paths = disk-bound drain
# 6. DLQ growth (events permanently failing pin their pages)
curl -sS http://127.0.0.1:9600/_node/stats/pipelines?pretty
# Look at dead_letter_queue.queue_size_in_bytes
Two notes while checking. First, do not poll the stats API faster than every 10 seconds on a loaded instance; the API competes with the pipeline for JVM resources. Second, if queue.drain: true is set and Logstash is draining during a shutdown, the Node Stats API largely stops updating and only events.in/events.out keep moving, so drain progress read from the API during shutdown is unreliable.
How to diagnose it
- Confirm the drain is real. Take two samples of
queue.queue_size_in_bytesa minute apart. If it is decreasing andflow.queue_persisted_growth_bytesis negative, the queue is draining. Nothing is stuck. Go to step 4 to estimate how long it will take. - Confirm the downstream is genuinely healthy. Check output throughput against input throughput, per-output plugin durations, and the log for retries and 429s. A downstream that recovered “mostly” produces exactly this symptom: a queue that drains at a trickle because outputs are still slow. Hot threads showing workers parked in output-wait paths confirms this.
- If the queue is not draining, check for a pinned page. A page is released only when every event in it is acknowledged. If the drain stops at a specific size and stays there while outputs are otherwise flowing, suspect one event (or a small set of events) that the output permanently fails: mapping conflicts, schema mismatches, poison-pill payloads. These land in the DLQ if it is enabled, or are logged and dropped if it is not, but only after retries are exhausted. Until then, the event’s page stays on disk. Check DLQ growth and the log for non-retryable failures.
- Measure the drain rate against your storage. Compute the drain rate from the
queue_size_in_bytesdelta per minute. Compare it to what the device can do iniostat. If%utilis pinned near 100 and read latency is high, disk I/O has become the bottleneck and the drain rate you see is all you are going to get. If neither I/O nor CPU is saturated, standard tuning (batch size, worker counts) often does not help much; splitting into parallel pipelines per output has been reported to improve throughput where single-pipeline tuning did not. - Rule out corruption. If the queue refuses to drain after a restart, or Logstash failed to start cleanly, check the log for checkpoint and page errors, then run the bundled checker against the queue directory:
# Read-only check of PQ checkpoint and page state (path is the pipeline's queue dir)
bin/pqcheck /var/lib/logstash/queue/main/
pqrepair is the companion repair tool. Treat it as disruptive: stop Logstash first, and back up the queue directory before running it, since repair can mean losing unacknowledged events. On older versions, unexpected shutdowns can leave checkpoint.<n>.tmp files that made these tools crash; this was reportedly fixed in Logstash 8.3. There was also a pre-8.3 crash scenario where a head checkpoint pointed at a purged page and neither restart nor repair could recover the queue; on current versions this specific failure is reportedly fixed, but unclean shutdowns (OOM kill, kill -9, force-killed pods) remain the primary corruption source.
Metrics and signals to monitor
| Signal | Why it matters | Warning sign |
|---|---|---|
queue.queue_size_in_bytes / max_queue_size_in_bytes | Occupancy and whether it is falling | Flat or rising after downstream recovery |
flow.queue_persisted_growth_bytes | Direct fill/drain rate; negative means draining | Positive or near-zero during supposed recovery |
flow.output_throughput vs flow.input_throughput | Whether output can absorb the backlog plus live traffic | Output at or below input during drain |
queue.data.free_space_in_bytes | Filesystem free space on the PQ volume, distinct from logical queue size | Falling while df was expected to recover |
Disk %util and r_await on the PQ device (OS-level) | Whether I/O saturation now caps the drain | %util near 100 for the whole drain |
dead_letter_queue.queue_size_in_bytes | Permanently failing events that pin pages | Any growth during drain |
flow.worker_utilization and hot threads | Whether workers are I/O-waiting on output or on PQ reads | All workers blocked on output while queue is full |
Fixes
Let normal drag finish
If the queue is draining, the correct action is usually no action. Do not restart Logstash to “speed up” a healthy drain: a restart forces PQ replay of unacknowledged events and can make things slower. Set expectations: df will lag queue_size_in_bytes, potentially by a long time, because pages are deleted only when fully drained and checkpointed.
Disk I/O is the bottleneck
- Move the PQ to faster local storage. The PQ documentation is explicit that NFS is not supported for the queue, for both integrity and performance reasons. If
path.datais on network storage, that is the finding. Slow drain on NFS is not a tunable; it is the architecture. - Reduce competing I/O on the volume. PQ pages, DLQ files, and Logstash’s own logs compete for the same disk. If the PQ shares a partition with verbose logs, drop the log level back from
debugand check log rotation. - Reduce concurrent pressure. If input rate is high during the drain, the head page keeps being written while tail pages are being read. Shedding non-critical inputs during recovery shortens total drain time.
Downstream still limiting
If output throughput is the cap, fix the downstream, not Logstash: cluster health, bulk rejections, thread pool saturation. Logstash-side, increasing pipeline.workers can help only if workers are genuinely CPU-starved; when workers are blocked on output I/O, more workers mostly means more waiters. Check flow.worker_utilization and per-plugin output utilization before touching worker counts.
Pinned pages from permanently failing events
Find the failing event class in the log (mapping conflicts, schema mismatches), fix the data or the destination mapping, and let the output acknowledge the events so their pages release. If the DLQ is enabled, the failed events are preserved for replay; if it is not, they are logged and dropped once retries exhaust, which also releases the page but loses the event. Decide which tradeoff you want before the incident, because during the incident you get whichever one is configured.
Corruption
Stop Logstash, back up the queue directory, run pqcheck, then pqrepair if warranted. If repair fails and the pipeline must come back, moving the queue directory aside and starting with a fresh queue loses everything the old queue held; assess that impact explicitly before doing it. On versions before 8.3, stale .tmp checkpoint files can block the tools themselves; removing those files manually is the documented workaround.
Prevention
- Size
queue.max_bytesrelative to the disk, not to wishful thinking. PQmax_byteslimits the queue but not the filesystem. Keep the PQ well under the partition’s capacity and leave headroom for logs and the DLQ. Also keepqueue.page_capacitybelowqueue.max_bytes; a page capacity larger thanmax_bytesstalls the pipeline with no error in the log. - Use local disk for
path.data. No NFS. Drain time on network storage is measured in multiples of fill time. - Monitor the recovery path, not just the failure path. Alerting on PQ occupancy catches the fill; you also want
flow.queue_persisted_growth_bytesand drain rate tracked after incidents so a stalled drain pages someone instead of being discovered the next morning. - Enable and monitor the DLQ so permanently failing events are visible instead of silently pinning pages and then silently vanishing.
- Shut down cleanly. Most PQ corruption follows
kill -9, OOM kills, and orchestrators force-killing pods before drain. Give termination grace periods room for the queue.queue.drain: truewaits for an empty queue before shutdown, but the official guidance warns against it unless the queue is small enough to drain quickly. Treat it as a small-queue tool, not a general safety net.
How Netdata helps
- Queue occupancy and fill/drain direction in one view. Netdata charts
queue_size_in_bytes,max_queue_size_in_bytes, andflow.queue_persisted_growth_bytesper pipeline, so you can see whether the queue is draining and how fast without hand-computing counter deltas. - Logical queue vs physical disk correlation. Plotting PQ size next to filesystem usage on
/var/lib/logstashmakes the page-release lag visible instead of alarming: the queue line falls first,dffollows later. - Disk I/O saturation alongside drain rate. Per-second
%util, read latency, and throughput on the PQ device, correlated with drain rate, answers “is the disk now the bottleneck” without a separateiostatsession. - Output health correlation. Output throughput, per-plugin durations, and downstream error signals next to queue depth show whether a slow drain is the downstream’s fault or the storage’s fault.
- Recovery-path alerting. Alerts on
queue_persisted_growth_bytesstaying non-negative after downstream recovery catch a stalled drain, which pure occupancy alerts miss. - DLQ growth during drain. DLQ size charted against the drain curve surfaces the pinned-page scenario early.
Related guides
- Logstash flow.queue_backpressure: the input-throttling metric explained
- How Logstash actually works in production: a mental model for operators
- Logstash memory queue vs persistent queue: durability, visibility, and failure modes
- Logstash monitoring checklist: the signals every production pipeline needs
- Logstash monitoring maturity model: from survival to expert
- Logstash pipeline stalled: output rate at zero while the process looks alive
- Logstash queue events count growing: reading the in-flight backlog
- Logstash queue full: inputs blocked and the backpressure wedge






